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Mapex/(Janus?) Transmission High-hat?!


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Is this a rare bird or what? I don't think I've ever seen any discussion on these. It would appear that it is the remnants of the Janus line from some time ago. Was this ever a thing or just a fad? Anyone owned/played one?

I give you the original incarnation of the 'transmission hi-hat':

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I was always intrigued by the idea but I heard it wasn't well executed.....if/when mapex release a falcon/raptor hh stand I'll probably be selling the flying dragon pedal and my 700 series hh stand to pick up new foot toys

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That is a cool idea. Looking at the pics though, I notice that the main drive is a chain, while the slave has a DD and some other linkage involved as well. Those two pedals could not have felt very much alike to play.

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I've got the hi-hat side. Different foot board design and all that, but same basic stuff. I didn't know they sold a hi-hat side only when I bought it, otherwise I wouldn't have gotten it. So I kinda check for used Janus double pedals on occasion. It's a neat piece of hardware, which is why I got it. From what I remember, they had tons of reliability issues. It's also fairly heavy and doesn't fold up so nicely.

I can try to take some close-ups of some areas if you're interested.

That is a cool idea. Looking at the pics though, I notice that the main drive is a chain, while the slave has a DD and some other linkage involved as well. Those two pedals could not have felt very much alike to play.

Yes, that DD cam on the slave side looks incredibly similar to the Raptor DD cam. I'd like to find one of the old Janus double pedals and grab a couple of those cams to make it all match. (Discovered the 300 series foot board isn't a perfect match for the Raptor stuff, mentioned in my crazy retrofit thread. Looking for a cheap 500/700 series double, or Janus, now.)

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I had one for a short while. Great idea, and it worked fairly well for switching over to fairly long passages of dbl bass (which I don't do)., but was a bit cumbersome for quick dbl bass hits.

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Ah, I can see that. I have a hard enough time just getting my brain to move my left foot back and forth from pedal to pedal for quick hits! :confused:

Mike, the heel plate must pivot, yes? And those little black carriages slide up and down the T-rails?

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Yes, and yes.

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Hi, it's been a long time since this post was started.

 

A Mapex Transmission Hat has been offered to me.

What do you think about it?

I've been receiving very different imputs about it. From ones that tell me that it's a piece of s#&t to others than tell me that they have it working for around ten years and it's a perfect piece of hardware.

 

I'm not a double pedal player, but I still use it sometimes to do little things. I'll appreciate all the comments about this. Thanks.

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Is it just the transmission hat, or is the double pedal included?

 

The Janus pedals had a couple pieces that were made from very soft aluminum, which could strip out easily if you over tighten them.  I think it was mainly the part that attaches the spring to the rotating shaft.  I suppose those parts could be replaced with ones from another pedal if you needed them.

The Janus bass pedal is sloooooooooooooooow.  I doubt that would bother you all that much, unless you do a lot of fast single stuff.

The transmission hat is very heavy and bulky.  I'd rather carry around a regular hi-hat and double pedal for gigs.

If you can try it out before you buy it, do it.  Switching from hi-hat to bass on the left pedal can be done smoothly, but keep in mind you're losing control of one. (You can't play one with your heel and the other with your toe like with two pedals.)

You really should use the clamps to lock your foot on the left pedal if you want good results.  My feet tend to wander if I don't need them to play something that instant, so this annoyed me.

 

I had one of these.  I like the idea of it and sometimes collect odd mechanical items, but it really just took up space for me and I ended up reselling it.

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Is it just the transmission hat, or is the double pedal included?

 

The Janus pedals had a couple pieces that were made from very soft aluminum, which could strip out easily if you over tighten them.  I think it was mainly the part that attaches the spring to the rotating shaft.  I suppose those parts could be replaced with ones from another pedal if you needed them.

The Janus bass pedal is sloooooooooooooooow.  I doubt that would bother you all that much, unless you do a lot of fast single stuff.

The transmission hat is very heavy and bulky.  I'd rather carry around a regular hi-hat and double pedal for gigs.

If you can try it out before you buy it, do it.  Switching from hi-hat to bass on the left pedal can be done smoothly, but keep in mind you're losing control of one. (You can't play one with your heel and the other with your toe like with two pedals.)

You really should use the clamps to lock your foot on the left pedal if you want good results.  My feet tend to wander if I don't need them to play something that instant, so this annoyed me.

 

I had one of these.  I like the idea of it and sometimes collect odd mechanical items, but it really just took up space for me and I ended up reselling it.

 

Is the whole package, but I'm told that there are a couple of models, one yellow, one blue and one black. One is supposed to work fine and the others seem to be a little crappy. I would like to have more opinions about them. And above all how works the main bass drum pedal and the hi hat pedal. The slave pedal is really secondary to me, but i still want it sometimes.

 

 

This things won't bother me. I'm not a double bass player, I just use it for some endings, and for some ornamentation, nothing really fast. my feet always rest on the footboards, even when in rest. I use the double pedal as little that I put it on the left of the hi hat pedal.

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I think they were good in the day but the technology has advanced now. Perhaps it would be better to look at a Falcon setup.

 

Mike H

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I think they were good in the day but the technology has advanced now. Perhaps it would be better to look at a Falcon setup.

 

Mike H

 

Is there a Falcon that combines Hi Hat with double bass pedal?

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I put my double pedal to the left of the hat as well, and I use the double a lot.  It brings the hats in closer.

I had a gray/black one.  I believe it was the original, with the Zeus logo and all that.  I've never seen a blue one.

The one pictured in the thread (yellow) is the newest version, I think.  The main pedal would play like a double P750 from the time period.  It's a single chain, which allows wobble and can destroy the nylon heel bearings.  Replacements are impossible to find.  I found that out the hard way buying an older pedal.

 

 

I think they were good in the day but the technology has advanced now. Perhaps it would be better to look at a Falcon setup.

 

Mike H

 

Is there a Falcon that combines Hi Hat with double bass pedal?

 

No.

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I have never seen that piece of hardware before.  It's really interesting and on paper a great idea, I'm sure an engineer had a blast on the problem solving it took to get it to work, , but looks really impractical to try and master if I understand how it works.  

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I had one. Neat idea, but I found it a bit sluggish.

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