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Spitfire Drums

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Spitfire Drums last won the day on July 13

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About Spitfire Drums

  • Rank
    Nate - Spitfire Drums
  • Birthday 08/26/1985

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Profile Information

  • Gender
    Male
  • Country
    United States
  • Location
    Cincinnati, OH
  • Drums
    Mapex
  • Cymbals
    Sabian

About this Drummer

  • Interests
    Food, Music, Storm chasing, retro games, dogs
  • Bio
    I'm a drummer, percussionist, singer, guitarist, sound engineer and songwriter. Been musically inclined my whole life and have been playing over 20 years.
  • Current Band
    Spitfire Drums / Nate McClure
  • Previous Bands
    University of Oklahoma (sooner showman, jazz band, symphonic band, percussion ensemble, and others)
    VIM
    Muddy Road
    Sages
    Matthew Neill
    and many more

Current kit Specs

  • Current Kit Specs
    Mapex Saturn III Limited Edition Birch/Walnut Studioease configuration in moss green

    Mapex Saturn III Jazz Configuration in Arctic White

    Mapex Black Panther Mayan 5.5x14" Steel Snare
    DW Collectors Series 5.5x14" Copper Snare
    1969 Ludwig Acrolite 5x14" Modded Snare
    1979-early 80's Ludwig 5x14" supersensitive Modded Snare

    Sabian Cymbals in brilliant finish:
    14" hhx click hi hats, 18" hhx evolution crashes, 19" hhx legacy crash, 21" hhx raw bell dry ride

    Aquarian Drumheads
    Yamaha Pedals and Hardware
    Meinl Percussion
    Vater Drumsticks, Brushes, Mallets
    Hendrix Sleeved Washers
    Canopus Snare Wires

What I Like

  • Favorite Drummer
    Keith Moon, Mitch Mitchell, Mark Brzezicki
  • Favorite Drum Brand
    Mapex
  • Favorite Drum Sticks
    Vater
  • Favorite Drum Heads
    Aquarian
  • Favorite Bass drum heads
    Aquarian
  • Favorite Snare
    Black Panther or DW Collectors
  • Favorite Cymbals
    Sabian HHX
  • Favorite Hardware
    Yamaha
  • Favorite BD Pedal
    Yamaha Direct Drive
  • Single or Double bass
    Single
  • Traditional or Matched grip
    both

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  1. Mapex Black Panther Black Widow Lose Throw-off

    That sounds like a fluke I’d contact the shop you got the drum from or maybe even KHS America directly (the Mapex distributor). One of those avenues should get you squared away. I work in a drum shop and haven’t come across that issue before.
  2. [Nov 2017 KOTM] My current kit I built/assembled myself.

    Congrats on KOTM and very well deserved I really need to setup my new saturns for a photo shoot and display them proudly haha
  3. Does the bass drum head effects the weight of the pedals?

    Well I’m familiar with Evans as a dealer of their products and the EMAD heavyweight is the heaviest kick head they currently make. 2 10 mil plies plus the popular external mounted dampening system (ie plastic ring and two foam rings). That’s about as far away from the stock Mapex heads as one can get. I believe the stock head is a Chinese Remo power stroke 3. Which would be a crimped (where the Evans and most US made heads are glued)10 mil single ply with a smaller perimeter edge ply used to control excess overtones. A straight ahead EMAD would be a single 10 mil ply with the same dampening system and would offer the closest feel to the stock Mapex head of course the dampening rings will change the feel slightly. Some will argue that the thicker multi ply heads are more durable and while thicker in my book it doesn’t always equate to durability as personally I’ve had more failures with two ply heads over the years than single ply heads. I also feel that single ply heads offer more volume potential. To my ear multi ply heads while useful tend to dampen the tone slightly by design and the added mass tends to lower the natural pitch. Some things to consider with multi ply heads is that the film can split and pull out of the hoop/collar more easily not necessarily from playing. That said I do use a lot of two ply heads from time to time typically the aquarian response 2 is my tom head of choice as I like the tone of them a little better for many things I do. And on kick drum it’s tough to beat the super kick ten because it has such a nice focused, thick, punchy tone without any hassle or work. But again I can’t emphasize enough what I’ve mentioned earlier. I truly believe that while gear is fun and great to get into it’s also a lot of hype and can be a black hole as it can hinder your playing and in some cases consume musicians from even playing I’ve been there a time or two and see it a lot. To be honest most non musicians and to an extent other musicians couldn’t care less about the gear we use. People want to hear the individual behind the gear. And whether we will admit it or not we get the gear for one purpose to use and play it. The gear is merely translating what you’re brain is trying to communicate. People are going to be more interested in hearing something they enjoy ie your talent/great idea than hearing a Mapex Saturn over a pearl export. If you took Eric Clapton into just about any music store and had him play thru various guitars and amps (not just his or expensive options) I’m willing to bet he’s still gonna sound good and most importantly sound like Eric Clapton. Basically the way I try to explain better gear to people at my work is that it makes it easier for experienced people to sound good but it can do the opposite for someone that isn’t as it’s more transparent and revealing of flaws in tuning, environment, and technique. Find your voice, find your vocabulary, find your playing style and get comfortable with your technique and skill so you can always sound like you and always sound good. Perhaps it’s just from playing in high school, college, church, working in music stores and recording/gigging in my mere 20 years of playing but I honestly feel pretty confident that no matter what gear I’d have to use I could always at least play what I want and sound good. Would it always be my tonal preference, will it always be as expressive as my own kits/Cymbals/snares/pedals? Has it always been easy for me to play this laid back and comfortably? No of course not In fact it took me many years to hone in on technique and playing all kinds of things in all kinds of situations. And even for being a gear head I know way more now than when I started or even in the middle of my journey thus far. I have a better understanding of who I am and how I play. I also better understand Drums, Cymbals and hardware so with the knowledge of both that I’ve developed thru the years I can fairly wisely select things that will be better for what I do.
  4. Does the bass drum head effects the weight of the pedals?

    To tie into the above comment technically the pedal will always remain constant. But you will notice a difference as all the variables come together that you will have to compensate in how you play. lets for a second think about a snare drum. lets say you play a 5A stick and have impeccable technique/control over your stroke. lets outfit the snare drum with a Coated 7 mil single ply head, then a 10 mil single, then a 14 mil double ply, and finally an aquarian triple threat three ply batter. Let’s assume we use a drum dial and match the tension readings at all lugs for each head to the same setting typically my sweet spot tends to be around 88. while your stroke will be the same the feel under the hands will change significantly between those four heads. The same effect would be noticeable to your feet maybe more noticeable. This is why I mentioned earlier that sometimes you have to get comfortable with playing uncomfortably. You may not always be able to play your gear or things can go wrong during gigs, sessions, rehearsals etc. I think it’s important to have a grasp on your technique and be able to adjust and compensate using your technique and skill to overcome any changes and shortcomings gear can throw at you. Those equipment failures and changes seem to happen more often than everything running smoothly and comfortably even for the most prepared musicians.
  5. drum loosing circular shape and transforming into an oval?

    I agree with that DIY anytime you’re dealing with an instrument made of a natural material such as wood you are bound to get minor discrepancies at least depending where you live due to changes in temperature and humidity. Here in Ohio we have cold dry winters, humid hot summers and the weather from day to day can be at varying extremes. Shells and even Drumheads can be inconsistent from time to time due to either manufacturing related issues or because of these climate changes (even both at times). It doesn’t matter much what brand or what price point the products fall at it’s just kind of something that as drummers and musicians we have to deal with. Guitars, Basses and other string instruments are prone to the same issues hence why it’s important to allow them to acclimate to their environment and to setup/adjust the instrument periodically.
  6. Does the bass drum head effects the weight of the pedals?

    As mentioned typically a thinner single ply (like the stock Mapex heads) head will have more rebound than a thicker two ply head (like the Evans EMAD heavyweight). other things that can also contribute to changes in rebound for a pedal are the use of dampening (pillow, towel, blanket, etc) and the use of a port or lack thereof on the resonant head. Tuning and head selection is personal and highly subjective so my best advice is to experiment and find what you feel offers the best rebound and tonal balance for what you do. There are no rules if it sounds and feels good it is good. As mentioned typically a thinner single ply (like the stock Mapex heads) head will have more rebound than a thicker two ply head (like the Evans mead heavyweight). other things that can also contribute to changes in rebound for a pedal are the use of dampening (pillow, towel, blanket, etc) and the use of a port or lack thereof on the resonant head. Tuning and head selection is personal and highly subjective so my best advice is to experiment and find what you feel offers the best rebound and tonal balance for what you do. There are no rules if it sounds and feels good it is good. some other advice I can offer from learning early on high school and college for example is don’t get too comfortable or reliant on your personal gear as oftentimes a school, venue, band, backline, studio , etc will have gear they want/need you to use. Get comfortable being uncomfortable.
  7. Hello from The Netherlands!

    Welcome aboard looking forward to seeing your future contributions
  8. [Nov 2017 KOTM] My current kit I built/assembled myself.

    Really great work rob! The snares both look fantastic. Nice choice with the trick strainer too!
  9. Need help identifying snare.

    You definitely have a black panther but it wasn't a normal catalog run model. So detailed specs and information will be difficult to obtain. Oftentimes Mapex used straight maple or Saturn maple/walnut shells and the old style overstock hardware and had them priced a lot lower than the standard catalog models usually $199.99 street in the USA. That said I don't recall seeing any that shipped with a 42 strand snare wire so it's possible someone swapped the stock wires out. By the way it's nice to have a fellow Sooner around these parts
  10. New Mapex Armory Kit

    Congrats the armory series is fantastic and the sabre snare drum is essentially a Saturn shell with classy tube lugs. You definitely got one of my favorite finishes I also really liked the exotic aquamarine
  11. 8 inch tom

    Also another point I should've mentioned on the reflectors aside from my points before. i find that they are pretty forgiving heads to tune even more so than other aquarians and they are also pretty controlled out of the box it's a head I don't see requiring much dampening or extra work in different venues and situations.
  12. 8 inch tom

    It's all going to be personal and subjective. But choking is a result of improper tuning/relationship between batter and resonant heads. Ultimately selecting heads should be based on the type of tone and durability you're after. speaking simply a single ply head will offer more tone/sustain and a heavier two ply head will offer more durability and attack. Clear will typically be more open and resonant and Coated will be drier and more focused. In addition to the batters it's important to select the right resonant heads as they'll determine how your drums will decay bright/dark, long sustain or quick, etc. I always suggest the classic clear from aquarian as I like to start with the most sustain and fullest tone from my toms. A remo clear Ambassador or Evans clear G1 would work about the same depending on your brand preference. For something a little different a remo fiberskyn diplomat or aquarian modern vintage thin are also a good resonant head. For a pitch bend tune the reso lower than the batter for less decay start tuning your reso higher than the batters. Perhaps trying a tunebot can help out if you don't trust your own ears for tuning. I find that unlike torque keys and devices that measure tension/tympanic pressure the tunebot is accurate and yields the best results as it's listening to your drums. It's also handy being able to see what notes your drums fundamentals are so you can tune to songs and use musical intervals between toms. Plus if you save your settings it's easy to consistently tune your kit the same way every head change. for specific suggestions here's what I've got for ya: I find an aquarian texture coated single ply over a classic clear is the most versatile head combination and by utilizing good tuning and if needed tone modifiers/dampening they can be molded into just about any sound. To me I find that the single ply heads are more durable as you don't have to worry about plies splitting or separating over time and to me the single ply has the most volume potential as with a 2 ply head the additional ply does dampen the tone to a degree. Of course your playing technique, tuning etc can all affect the useful life of your heads so your mileage may vary. For your style of music a clear response 2 or reflector batter are also great choices and can give you deeper, fatter more controlled tones. The response 2 will give you a fatter wetter sound then the coated single ply and the reflectors will be even more controlled, deeper and punchier with a darker timbre. hope this helps!
  13. Mapex Hammeered Snare

    That's a hammered steel and appears to be in great shape nice score!
  14. Unconventional drumhead selection

    There is a lot of validity to the cost. At my shop I try to outfit floor models with different heads to at least give people a point of reference but I know that's not the norm and it doesn't help people who only shop online.
  15. Unconventional drumhead selection

    Well not to stir the pot but I've seen plenty of remo and Evans with various defects and issues through the years. Ultimately when we have issues it's only fair to contact the company and judge them on how they resolve it at that point. I've never known Aquarian to screw anyone over. but aside from the issues that exist with any company making heads. I would like to try to keep the thread on topic by exploring if and how anyone is using different head combinations throughout heir kit. Ie how in my original post my main setups consist of medium single ply batters on racks and double ply batters on my floor toms both running the classic clears on bottoms. Just wondering what other cool hybrid head combos people are trying and having success with. I've not gotten as adventurous with resonant head experimentation simply because through the years I've played I've really found that an ambassador weight single ply works best for my taste for toms and the ambassador weight snare side equivalent. just seems to my ear and taste that lighter heads on small and gradually heavier heads for larger drums seems to work great. Where using all one type of batter and resonant while maybe sounding good might compromise certain elements on one end of the kit. This of course relying purely on the heads and not additional dampening.
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