Jump to content

Guest - Member Global Message

This is the Header Alert Global Message description. This message can be changed in your themes acp.

Hero
MyImageName

Banner 1 Title


MyImageName

Banner 2 Title


MyImageName

Banner 3 Title


SpinaDude

+ Contributor
  • Content count

    642
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    45

SpinaDude last won the day on January 23

SpinaDude had the most liked content!

Community Reputation

66 Excellent

About SpinaDude

  • Rank
    Sr. Member

Profile Information

  • Gender
    Male
  • Country
    United States
  • Location
    Green Twp., NJ
  • Drums
    Mapex
  • Cymbals
    Zildjian

About this Drummer

  • Interests
    hard rock music: Devin Townsend, Armored Saint, Anthrax, Queensryche, Alice in Chains, Faith No More, Fates Warning, Tesla, The Cult, David Bowie, The Doors, W.A.S.P (some), Dream Theatre (some)

    Sci-Fi movies and books

    Tyring to sell a novel when not working or behind the kit.

Current kit Specs

  • Current Kit Specs
    DRUMS:
    2010 Mapex Maple Meridian
    TOMS: 8x7, 10x8, 12x9, 13x10
    FLOOR TOMS: 14x14, 16x16
    BASS: 22x18
    SNARE: Black Panther Sledgehammer and Meridian Maple 14x61/2

    PEDAL: Mapex Falcon Double Pedal

    CYMBALS:
    ZILDJIAN: 13" Armand hi-hats, 17" A Custom medium crash, 18" Oriental China "Trash", 10" A Custom splash, 12" A Custom Rezo splash
    SABIAN: 16" AA El Sabor Crash, 16" AA thin crash, 20" Xs20 medium ride

    COWBELL: LP Black Beauty Sr.

What I Like

  • Favorite Drum Brand
    Mapex
  • Favorite Drum Sticks
    Pro Mark
  • Favorite Drum Heads
    Evans
  • Favorite Bass drum heads
    Evans
  • Favorite Cymbals
    Zildjian
  • Favorite Hardware
    Mapex
  • Favorite BD Pedal
    Mapex Falcon Double Pedal
  • Single or Double bass
    single
  • Traditional or Matched grip
    matched
  1. Getting Back Behind the Kit

    So we went on last night. It was far from perfect. I had to adjust my technique a lot (READ: ease up on how hard I hit) to accommodate the sound system weaknesses. One of my own shortcomings is being able to find a groove when I'm not really laying into the kit. In the end it came together and I overcame the issues. Even the couple of mistakes didn't hang me up and I pushed through pretty solidly. We had at least three hundred people there, and a lot of them sought me out afterwords to pay a compliment which is nice. You forget how easy it is to impress people who know nothing about drums! LOL The sound from my kit is what really sold it though. I mean it REALLY filled the room. Rich, thunderous sound. I was so impressed with how it sounded. And the Sledgehammer? Oh my God. It cut through everything...and I mean everything, ripping across the room like a voracious tiger. What a beautiful instrument.
  2. Getting Back Behind the Kit

    Thank you Speedy. It's been slowly improving to the point where I barely have the issue anymore. Tonight's the gig, we'll see how it goes. The songs are easy enough, and I've got them down well and with a good feel. So that's at least a good thing. My foot is still inconsistent, which is to be expected after such a hiatus. It knows what it wants to do and some of the muscle memory is there...and then it spazzes out. LOL What can you do other than keep it simple at that point. I'm hoping the sound system is working properly now. It was a cluster at the rehearsal the other day. No functioning monitors. That pissed me off. And I'm simply not good enough to move through without that. Any advice there?
  3. You can make a really big yogurt container.
  4. Getting Back Behind the Kit

    Life hasn't been exactly what I'd call easy for the past few years. So playing my drums hasn't been a priority. On top of that I wasn't in a mental state to do it and do it right. I walked past my kit every day and hadn't really had any inclination to play. I was honestly starting to wonder if I would again. Had my interests changed that much? No. But I just wasn't feeling it. Things change. After playing (poorly) maybe three times in the past two years my friend Kyle asks me to put a band together to play in the school talent show. He's a teacher and I'm a sort of full time sub. Anyway, K-8 school, which limits what's acceptable to play...and there's no way I'm playing 21 Pilots, which was his idea along with Green Day's She. 21 Pilots, I'm sorry, is just shit. I don't just hate it, it's genuine shit. Normally I just relegate things to what I like and don't like...I don't qualify music as good or bad. In my book those are words implying fact and gauging music is an opinion. But good lord, 21 Pilots is pure shit. Sorry, tangent. I just don;t have the chops for She...the BPM is just too damn high. After arguing for a week and a half with the rest of the "band" we finally agree on Song 2 by Blur and Happy by Pharrell Williams. And I'm terrified I 'm going to embarrass myself. I start with padwork trying to build myself back up and I'm getting a pain in my hands. IN the palm between the thumb and forefinger. It gets to the point where I can;t hold the sticks anymore. Not because I can't tolerate the pain, but because I'm losing all strength in my fulcrum. Thumb and forefinger are going dead. Has anyone ever experienced this before? I'm thinking it's a tendon issue. tendons that need to be stretched. I'm only thinking that because as I kept working for 90 minutes to 2 hours a day for the next few days it got progressively better. It's not perfect, but it's much better. Does anyone have any advice for me on this? I managed to finally get back onto the kit after 4 days of this. I struggled at first, jumping right into the new material. I;d learned the songs, but playing them on a pad and making them work on the kit are 2 very different things. It wasn't happening, despite how easy both tracks are. Before I could get too frustrated, I went back to old songs I knew, songs where the muscle memory would come back naturally. I started with the first song I ever learned, Rock and Roll Hell by Kiss. I moved into some Tesla and Armored Saint, some Alice in Chains and Godsmack. I hit Hyperdrive with the DTP...and it's really starting to come together. My hands are good and I'm finally playing well. Back to Song 2 and Happy. And I nailed them. It felt so good. And man oh man, dis the Meridian;s sound great. I'd forgotten how beautiful they are. I brought my kit to Kyle's house a few days later and I was on. I mean really on. Right in the pocket. I know neither one of these tracks are difficult (though Happy does require a bit of finesse to cop that feel) but I was really happy with it. For me it was a huge step forward. We haven't played with the full band yet...that's next week. But it feels great to be doing it. I haven;t played with a full band in over 25 years. If it goes well at the talent show we may do a benefit concert for the school. I can;t imagine coming up with a list of songs they'll agree on, but I still hope we can make it happen. Anyway, any advice on the hand pain would be appreciated.
  5. Something new is coming from Mapex

    I'm hoping this reconstruction thing is all it is. This might be a little off track but, here goes anyway. I just started playing again (that's a story I;ll start a separate thread for) for the first time in 2 years. And my God did I fall in love with my Mapex drums again. Rich and punchy, they sound fantastic. I really am lucky to have them. They're so well made and the hardware is excellent. I really forgot how good they sound and feel. I forgot how the Sledgehammer rips through everything. I've been down on Mapex for them not offering anything new in the past few years. Not expecting major innovations, as like many of you guys have said, there really isn't much left to innovate (unless, in my opinion, someone comes up with a cheap yer effective and reliable method for making DAMN GOOD solid shell drums that you could get at the price point of a Saturn). But they've offered so little of late. Getting back behind the kit, I'm more of a Mapex fan now than ever. They deserve a solid rep and a huge player base. They make great quality instruments and I want a reason to blow their horn...and didn't mean that the way it sounded. I'm looking forward to see what they unleash in September and hope it's something genuinely great, not marketing nonsense as I suspect much of that talk about finishes affecting the sound was.
  6. Something new is coming from Mapex

    Very true. I remember them describing their edge and to me I felt they were saying there was a slight variation between their edge and other traditional round-over edges. Enough to make it truly unique in the ENTIRE industry? Doubtful, but if you can latch onto a good marketing tool, as a business that's what you do. I never had any problem with them marketing it as a SoniClear edge...but the goofy-ass demo they would do (which I referred to in another thread) that annoyed the hell out of me. To me that's what DieHard was referring to when he talks about overhype in the industry. Although I only see that as the tip of the iceberg.
  7. Drum sound. Let's look at shells.

    For what its worth, I've had Remo and Evans on my Meridians. I love the Evans heads. My drums sound open and rich, at least in my opinion. Again we're talking taste and preferences here. My tuning of the G2's might not be to everyone's tastes. I've read that before, about DW's not sounding open. I forgot where and when, but something about it rang true (wish I could remember the source because that would be a clue as to why I took it as gospel truth). To be fair, I've never heard a DW kit in person...meaning me in a regular room with the kit without any icing or anything to process the sound, so I really can't offer an educated opinion on the matter. So back to educating me...what about the manufacturing process can lead to choked or closed sounding drums? IF woods are proving to be less of a factor in sound, which companies have a manufacturing process that alters sound for either open or closed? To me that ans hardware may be the bigger issues to consider when buying a kit.
  8. Drum sound. Let's look at shells.

    My head is starting to spin from all this. I think the one thing everyone agrees on is, like Logo said, don't believe manufacturer hype. How much of it there is in the industry...well that's up for debate since we all have personal bullshit meters and different things will set them off. Me personally, I'm sensitive enough to it to know I personally have to see/hear it for myself to believe it. And generally the more they spew, the less believable it is. Case in point SoniClear bearing edges from Mapex. Yes I believe they help seat a head better and yes I believe by extension that leads to a naturally expanded tuning range. But they hokey demo they made where they show someone trying to seat a head on a "conventional" bearing edge, and they try to press it on like mismatched tupperware...c'mon, that was ridiculous. It was like a bad infomercial where someone can't crack an egg without causing an avalanche. My point is, you have to know where to draw the line. As for the Fords/Sonor video, I have mixed feelings about that. Sometimes I hear a minor difference in some tom-strikes,sometimes major ones,sometimes none at all. For me it's gotten to the point where I'm trying too hard to hear or not hear something and I've psyched myself out. I honestly believe in person is the only way to do that test. Logo's point above about tuning to the same note as opposed to listening to the tone is also an astute one. And for me, I think I was getting confused by that. I have a video to post below that I found by DW, where they're demoing different kits. I didn't want to post DW because I think we'll get off into tangental arguments about them, but I think it's worth a watch. I hear differences in the tones, sound projection and resonance of these four different kits. They all look beautiful and I have no doubt are made with precision craftsmanship. That being said, I'm not in love with any of them. To me they lack presence, they're almost choked. I like open sounding drums. There could be a myriad of factors influencing that so I go back to my earlier point...I'd have to hear them in person. Here's the video. Please tell me what you think.
  9. Drum sound. Let's look at shells.

    I agree about the contradiction which is why I brought it up. But Their build quality and drum thickness specs were still impressive. That's what got me more than anything. That doesnt change the fact that I agree with DieHard on the hype in the industry. Everyone acts as thought they've reinvented the wheel. Yes, that's marketing people doing their jobs, but it still gets frustrating to sift through. Just as we see on the Fords sight. Anyone...History of the World Part 1? "Oh. You're a bullshit artist. Did you bullshit last week?" "No." "Did you TRY to bullshit last week?" "Yes."
  10. Drum sound. Let's look at shells.

    I've been busy, so I haven't read a lot of the posts for the past few days, but I'll get to them tomorrow. But I did have the chance to go to the Ford Drums website after watching a 22 minute video they put out comparing drum shells much in the way DieHard has done. Their video was interesting as well, as they too were very knowledgeable. Good food for thought. They had beautiful instruments on the site and I was really impressed with their build quality. BUT I had two issues. First why no prices? I'm sure they're expensive, but for a boutique company offering that kind of customization, that's to be expected. Especially as they're offering solid and stave drums of considerable thickness. C'mon though...we need some kind of price range. 5 G's? 10 G's? Give us a hint. But my big issues is this...they made a big show at showing how the wood doesn't make a difference in the drum's sound. They said the shell material isn't important, but the thickness depth, inner shell coating and of course the heads are the biggest factors here. Then why make a point of specifying NA Maple on one drum series? Or offering a choice of woods for their ply series drums? Why not just use a cheap ass wood, finished inside and offer the thicker depths? If the argument is that glue is the factor making all shells sound the same, I can understand why they offer different wood for the solid and stave shells. But I didn't get that impression. I get it, they'll never convince everybody of their viewpoint (I'm still waffling back and forth on where I stand on that), and limiting wood choice could limit their customer base, but I do find it strange they don't stand by that. All that being said, their drums are beautiful. I'd love to hear those thicker shells with the re-rings in person and hear how they stand up against the solid and stave drums. I have to say, from the bit I saw and heard, if I were to be willing to dump an obscene amount of money on a kit, I'd be willing to consider these before DW. That's not a DW bash, but I really like what these guys are doing with shell thickness and re-rings. DW offers a great range of custom finishes and sizes, but I found what Ford is doing to be more intriguing.
  11. Drum sound. Let's look at shells.

    I remember when MyDentity launched it was listed as NA Maple. (I also believe the BP kits were all listed as NA MAple at the time they were released, but I'd have to check back in my print catalogs to be sure.) The only reason I remember it is because it was only a couple years after getting my Meridian Maples and I remember feeling a little miffed that I didn't get the North American wood in my kit. But the next day when I sat down to play, with how true they ring, I really didn't think it mattered. I love how my drums sound. I don;t care what anyone says, I know they could pass muster as a pro level kit. They sound amazing, they look great, they're solidly built and the hardware is excellent. I KNOW I made a killing when I bought them. In that way alone, there's a lot of credence to DieHard's argument, because I didn't have to pay through the nose for quality. And if they are made of a cheaper wood, they still sound rich and pure. In addition, many of the hardware refinements are the same as on their top level kits. Not trying to be a Mapex fanboy, but I love my gear. Different topic, I got the impression Augie was implying he thinks there are falsehoods in Mapex's advertising. Please don't think I'm trying to put words in your mouth Augie, it's just my interpretation and know I could be wrong, but I thought you were saying that despite the type of wood Mapex says they're using, they're really using something cheap and inferior and calling it maple, or birch or walnut. Please correct me if I'm wrong, dude. If you are saying that, is it just your distrust of them at this point, which I understand, or do you have inside info. I'll be very disappointed in Mapex if that turns out to be the case. Here's one for Glenn. As I remember you have a Saturn maple kit (or 2), a Saturn birch kit (or 3), A BP Blaster and a BP RetroSonic as well as a Tama, a Premier and a Gretsch. Forget about the micing and recording. I'm sure you've played them all extensively. What do you hear when you play them? Are there true tonal differences to your ear, or do they sound close or the same? Beyond that, of the four brands what's your take on build quality? Which is the most solid and sound? Actually you can leave the Premier out of that last question, I know it's a 30 year old kit.
  12. Drum sound. Let's look at shells.

    Augie, I love me some boobs, but I can see how being surrounded by full bodied, robust, perky, firm, succulent hooters all day and night might get old. Nah! F&%@ that! Love me some boobs! In all seriousness, it's not easy doing what you do, risking your self like that with a bunch of boozed up, coked out chumps with beer muscles and something to prove. Stay safe my friend, and watch out if they keep the room really cold. We don't want you putting an eye out with a stray nip.
  13. Drum sound. Let's look at shells.

    Dude! That's badass!! Giving out latitude and longitude like that, its like something out of Close Encounters! LOL
  14. Drum sound. Let's look at shells.

    Can we step back here a minute, guys? Earlier in the thread Augie said, and I quote, "one of the largest all nude titty bars in America ." Dude...all those boobs a bouncing and yet there's a pissing match over the possibility of a lying corporate rep? Boobs trump everything and make everything better. Let's talk about the boobs!!!!! Augie, best set you remember from each decade. Aaaaaannnnnddddd...GO!!!!
  15. Drum sound. Let's look at shells.

    I hope we don;t get derailed here. We can start a side thread if we want to bark at each other about Mapex PR and marketing vs DW PR and marketing. Speedy makes some great points about glue and shells in his post a little higher up in this thread. We would need tests between same wood shells manufactured in different ways: plywood, stave and sold. That would be interesting too, though I don;t know if anyone has those materials readily available.
MyImageName

Image Description 1


MyImageName

Image Description 2


MyImageName

Image Description 3


×